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Disciple of Osiris

Osiris seeks the strongest Guardians to stem the tide of the Darkness.

― In-game description

Brother Vance is a blind member of the Followers of Osiris and a former Warlock. He is the Trials of Osirisvendor in the Vestian Outpost.


Vance was formerly a Warlock.[1] During his time as a Guardian, he apparently knew Eris Morn.[1] At one point, he suffered a near-death experience which also blinded him.[2]

After Mara Sov opened the Reef to the Guardians, the disciples of Osiris concluded that the Tower would never be ready for the Trials despite Lord Shaxx's efforts training Guardians in the Crucible. They took the Awoken opening the Reef as an opportunity to train Guardians in the Trials. Sister Faora sent Vance to the Vestian Outpost to inform the incoming Guardians of the Trials and give passage to those Guardians who were brave enough to enter.[3]


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  • Ticket to Flight: Complete a single Trials of Osiris ticket.
  • His Eye Upon You: Complete Trials matches and defeat opposing Guardians. Fireteam shares progress. May be completed Daily
  • Valor's Reward: Earn 75 points in Trials by round wins (+3), losses (+1), and ties (+1). As a Trials fireteam, defeat 3 opposing Guardians without anyone on your Fireteam dying.
  • Trials Journeyman: Win 3 individual rounds in the Trials of Osiris.

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Vance in the Vestian Outpost.



On Tuesday, Bungie launched the second half of Destiny 2: Season of Arrival’s final Exotic quest. Earlier in the season, players prepared some of the game’s older destinations to enter the Destiny Content Vault and leave the game when Bungie launches Destiny 2: Beyond Light on Nov. On Sept. 8, players helped evacuate the remaining assets on Mars, Mercury, Titan, and Io. But not everybody made it out alive.

These four planets are some of the oldest in Destiny 2, entering the game in the Red War campaign at launch or within the game’s first two expansions in early And like every planet in Destiny 2, each of the evacuated planets had their own vendor character, each with their own story to tell and history. But of the four planetary NPCs players help in the Evacuation quest, only one seems to survive.

[Spoiler warning: this post contains spoilers for a lore book currently available inside Destiny 2. If you haven’t read Duress and Egress and want to, we recommend you do so before reading this post]

During the quest, players earned a new lore book in-game called Duress and Egress. And three of the book’s chapters reveal the fate of Sloane, Asher Mir, and Brother Vance.

Asher Mir

Asher was the vendor on Io, a crusty, old Warlock forced to replace one of his original arms with that of a Vex Goblin. When the Darkness — the giant pyramid ships currently invading each of the disappearing worlds — reaches Io, Asher decides to try and fight back rather than leave.

The Asher: Conclusion chapter shows Asher Mir descending into the Pyramidion — a giant Vex structure that also serves as a Strike in-game. He moves past traps familiar to Guardians who’ve plunged the depths hundreds of times in the last three years. And believing that the Darkness first came to Io in search of secrets hidden inside the Pyramidion, Asher collapses the structure in on himself, burying its secrets and, presumably, killing himself in the process.

Commander Sloane

Sloane was one of Zavala’s most trusted Titans, and the Guardian vendor on one of Jupiter’s moons, also called Titan. She was one of the first Guardians players met in Destiny 2, running into her and Zavala a short ways into the Red War campaign. Like Asher, she decided to stay behind and fight the Darkness, rather than retreat.

In the Sloane: Riastrad chapter, Commander Sloane wraps her body in a high-tech suit of armor. After interfacing with the suit, she learns to control it, and rushes off to fight a one-woman battle against the Hive and the Darkness. The story doesn’t explicitly say that Sloane perishes in her battle. But based on what we know about the Darkness, one Guardian — even a very powerful Guardian — can’t last long on their own. It reads more as a noble, final charge than a success.

Brother Vance

Brother Vance is not a Guardian, and he was never much of an ally either. Brother Vance was a fan-boy and the vendor on Mercury. Obsessed with the mythical Warlock Osiris, and leader of his cult/fan-club, Vance originally met the Guardians as the Trials of Osiris vendor in the original Destiny. But as the Darkness threatens to envelop Mercury, Brother Vance decides to wade into the planet’s Infinite Forest to find Osiris, his idol, rather than return to the Tower empty handed.

In the Vance: Passeri chapter, we follow Brother Vance into the Infinite Forest for the first time. It’s a psychedelic look at the portal of infinite space and time, seen through the blind eyes of a non-Guardian. But as Vance explores what he’s always wanted to know, he finds what seems to be another version of himself in the Forest. The two struggle, and the chapter ends. Vance finds himself in what seems to be a Paradox, killing or being killed by a future or past version of himself.

Of all the stories, Sloane’s is the most open, with Brother Vance walking away dead or injured, and Asher crushed under the rock. The only survivor is Ana Bray, who returns to the Tower with the remains of Rasputin, the Warmind, likely trapped inside an Exo. It’s currently unclear if we’ll ever hear from Asher, Sloane, or Brother Vance again, but Ana and Rasputin will play a major role in the next few years of Destiny 2’s story.

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Brother Vance is a blind disciple and representative of the Cult of Osiris. When the Wolf Rebellion began, Vance travelled to the Vestian Outpost in the Reef and attempted to recruit the strongest Guardians for the Trials of Osiris, offering entry and rewards to the event. After leaving the Reef, Vance led The Lighthouse, a Cult outpost on Mercury located near the entrance to the Infinite Forest. He has written multiple books on Osiris and spends much time reading the portents and watching for Osiris’ prophecies to come true. Ikora Rey derisively called Vance “Osiris’ greatest fan.” The de facto leader of the cult, Brother Vance, admits to having never met Osiris, and expresses intense jealousy that the Guardian met with him in the Infinite Forest.


Chronicler of Osiris[edit]

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"To be a Guardian! How I longed for it. After a near-death experience in which I lost my eyesight, I even believed that I had become a Guardian, that the great Osiris had granted me my dearest wish. How young and foolish I was!"
&#; Vance, lamenting on his past delusions

As a young follower of Osiris, Vance rejected the teachings of the Speaker and instead believed in the exiled Warlock's views on the Traveler. He wished to be a Guardian so that he could follow in his hero's footsteps and chronicled the life of Osiris in several books. However, he ended up in a accident that cost him his eyesight and nearly his life. This traumatic experience led to Vance believing that somehow Osiris had granted his wish to become a Guardian,[1] and he claimed in his delusion to be an old Warlock like Osiris.[2] Among his texts that he wrote was "The Definitive History of Osiris", in which he claimed that the Speaker created the Consensus to provide the illusion of democracy to the Last City in the aftermath of the Iron Lords death.[3]

Recruiting at the Vestian Outpost[edit]

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"The purpose of the Trials is to hone the right weapon for the right moment."
&#; Vance, to the Guardian

When the Wolf Rebellion began in the Reef, Vance was contacted by Sister Faora, who noted that the Last City would likely never allow the Trials of Osiris to take place there despite the progress Lord Shaxx had made with the Crucible. She instead suggested to Vance that he travel to the Reef and attempt to set up the Trials there, as the Guardians were being allowed within select sections of the Reef due to the Rebellion. This would also allow Vance to gain an audience with Queen Mara Sov, who was an ally of Osiris, and that hopefully the Vanguard would not look for a reason beyond the Trials to explain why the Cult of Osiris was there.[4] Vance was allowed access to the Vestian Outpost by the Queen and he set up a shrine in the outpost in the hopes of attracting Guardians into competing in the Trials of Osiris. While there he met a Guardian and was astounded by how the Light shined around them, and noted that he now understood why Osiris was interested in them.[5] Vance had a meeting with Mara at some point during his stay at the Vestian Outpost where she told Vance a secret that he believed he was destined to tell Osiris.[6]

The Return of Osiris[edit]

Combating the Infinite Mind[edit]

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After the defeat of Panoptes and the reunion between Osiris and Ikora, Vance was visited by the Young Wolf. He was aghast that Osiris had returned to the Infinite Forest and the Guardian had not brought him to meet Vance, demanding to know how many books they had written about the Warlock and why they deserved to meet him. Setting aside his jealousy, Vance decided to continue recording the ongoing events on Mercury. He revealed that he had seen new portents of Vex activity within the Infinite Forest and requested the Young Wolf investigate. Vance hoped that Osiris would be pleased by this and that he might visit Vance as thanks.[7]

Search for Saint[edit]

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The Arrival[edit]

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"Bring Vance this prophecy: Lock down the Infinite Forest and report to the Tower."
&#; Commander Zavala[8]

Upon the arrival of the Pyramids to Mercury, Vance was visited by the Young Wolf once more, who provided him a briefing from Commander Zavala of all that was happening throughout the solar system. Consulting his texts to determine which potential prophesized end-time scenario they were currently experiencing, Vance noted that Osiris had used an excessive amount of Fractaline to power the Obelisks during the Sundial crisis. From the Lighthouse, Vance could feel how reality had been damaged by those actions and that countless timelines were pulling against a chronological center, with the arrival of the Pyramids placing additional pressure on them that could cause it to collapse. He believed the Infinite Forest was key to solving this issue and requested the Young Wolf provide help in determining what could be done. When the Young Wolf returned from gathering data, Vance was absorbed in studying his scrolls and comment that the connections between Osiris, the Forest, and the Pyramid went beyond just prophecy, but abruptly cut himself off as he heard the Lighthouse chime a dirge for a Guardian falling the Trials of Osiris. He noted the tones had gotten richer in the shadow of the Pyramid and asked if the Young Wolf could hear it. He smiled as he heard the chime once more and described it as the song of life and death, causing the Young Wolf to depart to attend their other duties and leave Vance to his studies.[8]

Once the Guardian departed the Lighthouse for the last time, Vance collected his belongings and entered through the gateway to the Infinite Forest. While he was initially afflicted by the dizzying nature of the place, he attuned his Infinite Simulacrum to the crack in the Forest and sealed himself within. Many iterations of Vance from different realities coalesced inside the Forest with him, spreading his message of hope and joy into every reality. The original Vance began to sing Hope for the Future before another iteration of himself finished his sentence. Vance turned to analyze his other self and he found his hands reaching towards his throat; his alternate self twisted beneath his hands, turning cold and rigid. He was thrown onto his back by the parallel version of himself, but Vance reached underneath his blindfold and began to gouge his eyes. Vance noted that his other self still had eyes and found it to be 'unfortunate'.[9]

Personality and Traits[edit]

The way to describe Brother Vance is complicated. He is a fanatic of Osiris and is dangerous because of that but is not exactly a threat to the Guardians. He is desperate for his "master's" attention, even digging into things he shouldn't and becomes jealous of the Guardian for meeting Osiris in-person many times. Vance is delusional, believing that he himself is an old warlock. He will do anything for Osiris or anything in the name of Osiris, as he is described as Osiris's biggest fan. Vance also holds a reverence for anyone who was once close with Osiris such as Ikora, who was once Osiris's student.


Trials Rewards[edit]

  • Stone Tier—2 wins per passage ( glimmer)
  • Bronze Tier—3 wins per passage ( glimmer)
  • Armor Piece—5 wins per passage ( glimmer)
  • Silver Tier—6 wins per passage ( glimmer)
  • Weapon—7 wins per passage ( glimmer)
  • Gold Tier—8 wins per passage ( glimmer)

Trials Supplies[edit]


  • "I may be blind, Guardian, but I know you are there."
  • "I lost my sight long ago but there are other senses".[10]
  • "Do what the Queen asks. This is all part of the pattern."
  • "You know why I'm here, and you know what I offer."
  • "My master always had an understanding with the Queen."
  • "Ask yourself, what would you do if it was proven the Speaker was a charlatan?"
  • "The candles are for focus. Don't let them distract you."
  • "Does Osiris live? I assure you, he lives through me."
  • "If you seek Osiris, you must begin with the Trials."
  • "If you're looking for me, you've found me."
  • "Don't worry about the candles. They center me."
  • "Yes. I am what you think I am."
  • "If you think you're ready, then you're ready."
  • "I was once a Guardian, like yourself, but now I am on a different path."
  • "I can't tell you where Osiris has gone. It isn't time for you to know."
  • "My regards to Cayde, Hunter."
  • "My regards to Commander Zavala, Titan."
  • "My regards to Ikora, Warlock."
  • "I sacrificed my sight in the Trials, and it wasn't enough."
  • "I think of myself as a hunter too. In a way."
  • "Osiris stood before the Nine on the ice fields of Europa, but the time wasn't right."
  • "C'mon, let's get a sense of your might."
  • "Excuse me, I was just meditating."
  • "I came here because we have business of our own with the Queen. Nothing to do with Wolves, but plenty to do with Skolas."
  • "Tell me, Guardian, do you think you're ready for the Trials?"
  • "Osiris fought at the battle of Six Fronts, it's said he seemed to be everywhere at once that day."
  • "They say the Nine released Skolas, no doubt they had their reasons. But it brought you here and they may yet regret that."
  • "If it's not time, it's not time."
  • "Breath."
  • "The Queen and Osiris, I believe they conspire. Have you heard the name Oryx, Guardian?"
  • "In your own time."
  • "He trusts Ikora, he knows her Hidden too well."
  • "There are a few of us 'followers of Osiris'. We move around a lot."
  • "No rush."
  • "Oryx, this name, do you know it? They want this Oryx here, out of the darkness."
  • "I began as a Guardian, I left to follow a different path. Perhaps you will too one day."
  • "It all has to come together, but what if we miss."
  • "When you're ready."
  • "He says the Nine are vulnerable every moment they touch our world."
  • "Listen. Do you hear that?"
  • "If we miss our moment, if we're not ready, it won't come again"
  • "I was just reading his words. Osiris. Have you heard of him?"
  • "Are you the one who faced Crota?"
  • "What are the Warlocks focused on these days?"
  • "I was just meditating, Warlock. Would you like to join me?"
  • "I used to be a Warlock, now I follow a different path."
  • "No, you are not one of Ikora's Hidden, are you? I feel like we've met before."
  • "When you've been out of The City so long you start to talk to yourself, don't mind me."
  • "He is the one true Speaker, who knows that the Traveler will never speak again."
  • "I was talking to myself, you're not interrupting anything."
  • "It's a long time since I've been back at The Tower. Does the Speaker still speak of Osiris?"
  • "You are aware of the Hidden, yes? But you are not one of them. You do not wear the mark."
  • "Maybe you're the one. Why don't you show us."
  • "I was meditating, Titan. Join me if you'd like."
  • "I'm an old, blind Warlock far from home. Perhaps we can talk."
  • "What brings you out here so close to the Darkness. Can you feel it?"
  • "Titans know the value of stillness."
  • "Maybe you're the one we need, come forward."
  • "Good to meet you, Guardian. Have you heard of Osiris?"
  • "There's a deep, dark course ahead of us. The Wolves are just the beginning."
  • "They call me Vance. Nice to meet you. A guest on the Reef, like yourself."
  • "I follow Osiris, not the Speaker. Do you know his legend?"
  • "Is it coincidence that brings us together, do you think?"
  • "I see you have been to the darkness and back. Tell Eris I said hello."
  • "Is this where I should be?"
  • "I need to see the Queen again"
  • "Quiet. Still. Wait for them to come into alignment."
  • "It's hard to be your eyes out here, Master."
  • "Ah, here. If were not ready when the moment comes, if we miss by seconds. Darkness"
  • "Alas, Guardians will find us"
  • "The right weapon, honed in the Trials and ready at the right moment"
  • "What a strange place to find myself. What a strange time."
  • "Be still, be still. Let them come to you"
  • "Be still. Watch. No body. No weight. Be an eye"
  • "Why do wish for me to shadow this Uldren? Does he scare you?
  • "Who is this one who calls himself Arty?"
  • "Speak through me, Master. Let me help you find them"
  • "Why do you make me deal with this Shaxx, master? Is it a test?"
  • "None of them are ready for Mercury"
  • "I waited and waited and suddenly here they all are, you were right."
  • "The Wolves will test them, make them ready for the Trials"
  • "What does he say about the Nine?"
  • "Let's see. one, two, three, strike, step, strike, three, two, one."
  • "So many Guardians here, so few who have what it takes."
  • "Which technique? Guard, strike, guard, step, again"

Destiny 2[edit]

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  • "What have you done for Osiris today?"
  • "Hmm No, I can't say that I know much about 'Arc' energies We do not have electricity here, as you can see"


  • Prior to Curse of Osiris, Vance was very mysterious and seemed to have a complex motive for running the Trials of Osiris. In his most recent incarnation, he has become more of a "greatest fan" archetype personality-wise. Why this change happened is unclear.


List of appearances[edit]


  1. ^Bungie (/12/5), Destiny 2: Curse of Osiris, Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, Machina Dei 4
  2. ^Bungie (/5/19), Destiny: House of Wolves Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, Vance dialogue: "I'm an old, blind Warlock far from home. Perhaps we can talk."
  3. ^Bungie (/12/5), Destiny 2: Curse of Osiris Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, Garden Progeny 1
  4. ^Bungie (/5/19), Destiny: House of Wolves Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: Disciples of Osiris
  5. ^Bungie (/5/19), Destiny: House of Wolves Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, House of Wolves (quest)
  6. ^Bungie (/8/9), Destiny 2: Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, Vance dialogue: "The Queen once whispered a secret to me. I know one day, I'll share it with Osiris."
  7. ^Bungie (/12/5), Destiny 2: Curse of Osiris, Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, Omega, Post-mission dialogue
  8. ^ abBungie (/6/9), Destiny 2: Season of Arrivals - Quest: Exodus
  9. ^Bungie (/6/9), Destiny 2: Season of Arrivals - Lore: Duress and Egress - Vance: Passeri
  10. ^Reddit: The Cult of Osiris and the Lore Behind it
Destiny 2 Lore - The END for Brother Vance - Myelin Games

Brother Vance did not deserve being stripped of his powers and character in Destiny 2


In Destiny, Brother Vance was a blind Warlock and a follower of the teachings of Osiris(Idle dialogue in Destiny). In Destiny 2, he is just blind and fanatical.

I think this is a bit of an oversimplification of Vance in Destiny 2, as well as what we knew of him in Destiny 1. As of Destiny 1, his idle dialogue implied that he was previously a Guardian, as opposed to being one during the game’s canon:

“I used to be a Warlock, now I follow a different path.”

“I began as a Guardian, I left to follow a different path. Perhaps you will too one day.”

In Destiny 2, Vance does offer an explanation for the change:

To be a Guardian! How I longed for it. After a near-death experience in which I lost my eyesight, I even believed that I had become a Guardian, that the great Osiris had granted me my dearest wish.

How young and foolish I was!

This need to “feel like [he] was enough” after a traumatic incident led him to be rather deluded when it came to his Light, though obviously he was trustworthy enough to gain a spot at the Reef and oversee the Trials of Osiris. The only person that says he was a Warlock is Vance himself- and, given the nature of unreliable narrators in Destiny’s lore, I don’t think this change is equivalent to an objective, well-sourced fact being altered. We as a community took Vance at face value, despite the Cult being, well, a Cult. That’s not to say that everything the Cult said or did in D1 is without merit, but it was made clear that the Cult had ulterior motives, and taking all information presented by them as fact isn’t recommended.

Regarding his character in D2, in Curse of Osiris, Vance is introduced during a stressful situation. As he says himself:

Brother Vance: The Vex are at my door. Osiris has not returned. Faith is all I have left.

The Cult’s- and by extension, Vance’s- mysticism is played off more jokingly than it was in D1 (“We followed the signs here, too. And by signs, I mean facts.”). But the Cult is still capable; it’s what gave the Guardian the ability to recover Sagira after she was damaged. They also managed to correctly interpret the Prophecies of Osiris, barring any new revelations.

As for Vance being fanatical, he still manages to be rather composed within D2’s lore:

“You may not know the legend of Osiris or ever dared our trials, but should we call on you, will you honor the heralds who earned this weapon’s honor and continue the hunt?”

His dialogue in-mission isn’t all of his character; in addition, there can easily be a difference in his actions as a blind civilian in a high-pressure situation as opposed to in a safe corner of the Reef.

Some of his lines can be viewed as a bit campy, but he’s far from a joke character in D2. There’s also the fact that he did have joke lines in D1:

“Why do you make me deal with this Shaxx, master? Is it a test?”


Why do you think this change was made? Also do you think this might have something to do with the “Folklore” statement from the Narrative lead at Bungie.

The “‘Folklore’ statement,” while hotly debated on sites like Reddit, was not made as an excuse to gut D1 lore. It’s an explanation for stories such as the Books of Sorrow or Palamon- they cannot be taken completely as fact, because their narrators are unreliable and prone to forgetting, if not outright omitting, information. Jaren Ward says so himself:

I’m writing this from memory - some mine, but not all. The facts won’t sync with the reality, but they’ll be close, and there’s no one to say otherwise, so for all intents and purposes, this will be the history of a settlement we called Palamon and the horrors that followed an all too brief peace.

And, as Christopher Barrett said:

All that was meant - the entries in the Grimoire are written within the context of the game world by characters who might have individual opinions, perspective, or varying sources. They are bits of lore and legend.

I don’t think this was a change made out of malice; it could be, much like the Rezyl Azzir/Yor debate, something that was always intended but instead taken as a retcon. Vance’s Light was only mentioned in his idle dialogue, something that shouldn’t be valued over D2’s lore.


If anyone has a source for Vance’s lines from Destiny besides wikipedia I would appreciate it.

I’d recommend this post of idle dialogue transcripts, although it’s incomplete.



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